I was asking Rani while watching the Iowa results when Obama was going to make the call. The one to Edwards saying, if I win this thing, you'll be my VP. And Edwards counters with if I make a comeback you can be mine. We'll lay off each other and bury Hillary in the debate. I was almost positive it would be made. Anybody with an ounce of credibility knows that Hillary is in the pocket of special interests. She's about business as usual. And though Edwards and Obama don't agree about everything they don't take money from special interests. They actually care about this country in the way that Hillary cares about power.
So they cut the deal, and Edwards dropped the hammer on Hill tonight. Edwards still has a shot in this election, but he's not going to sacrifice the country and the world by letting Hillary win. Neither would Obama.
When Hillary attacked them both, she must have known. She managed to draw it out early, and she had a blunt answer. Bill Richardson was clearly in Hillary's corner with his 2% at the caucuses. 29+2=31%. 30+38=68%. This isn't tough math.
So with Edwards' strong performance tonight he could pull an upset in New Hampshire. Or Obama might continue what he started in Iowa. The important thing to people who care about this country is that 68-31% advantage against the same old shit.
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Thanks to Rani for getting this train started!
They've definitely cut a deal, but probably with minimal discussion about the vp position. Edwards has been at a disadvantage for this entire campaign. He's basically the white version of Obama but the media have focused on Hilary and Obama because one is a female and the other is African-American. It makes the race more exciting since these two minorities are the front runners. Edwards has no chance of taking down Obama now while Hilary is still in it, so he's maade a deal with Obama to get her out of the race.
As far as Edwards as a vp choice for Obama (if he even wins the nod), he's second choice at best. Edwards may bring alot of southern votes but probably not enough to take away from Huckabee (the possible republican vp). Obama wants to end the war but he also needs to look tough. That's where Clark comes in. He's backed Clinton now, but if she loses, she and Clark back Obama or Edwards.
Yeah, that the deal has been cut was patently obvious. If you needed confirmation, you probably got it when Hillary fired a salvo at Obama over his voting record / lack of experience (I think?) and Edwards immediately stepped up to his defense.
To his defense.
In a debate.
I don't think an Obama / Edwards ticket would be half-bad. I do hope it's Obama / Edwards, though, and not Edwards / Obama.
Lando-- I vehemently disagree about the Wes Clark bit!!! I just don't see an Obama-Clark ticket.
I think Clark is a shoe-in for Hillary's VP, but it would be awfully weird if he suddenly wound up in Obama territory after backing Hillary.
I completely agree, that right now it seems really weird for Obama to choose clark. It's going to be just as weird though, if Hilary doesn't win the nomination, when she is backing Obama as well. The only reason I think the second place candidate for the Democrats does not become the vp for the winner is because they're all senators. It's extremely difficult to get elected as a senator but two? We saw Kerry/Edwards almost do it, but that was probably due to the lack of competence from the Bush Administration and the presence of Karl Rove than anything else.
But - the more I think about who would serve Obama well as a vp, I am kind of excited by the prospect of an Obama/Bloomberg ticket. Bloomberg won't get in if Obama is the Dem nomination BUT with him, that ticket is unbeatable. The democratic base does not protest that ticket and I think a majority of independent voters spurn the Republicans, especially if Huckabee is running for the GOP. What do you guys think?
After some consideration, I think VP discussions have definitely been underway. In fact, given that they're two leading contenders for the nomination, I'll bet anything that the agreement is basically a mutual cease-fire between Obama and Edwards, and an agreement to decide based on the DNC nomination outcome to pick the other guy as his VP.
Obama has the lead over Edwards, but narrowly. Still, it's looking relatively decisive even now, this early on.
I'd also agree with Roobee; it's highly unlikely that Obama would choose Clark as a running mate. He's still busy stumping for Hillary left and right in NH. And he's stumping for her like she's doing something for him in return.
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